Post by Chris AtkinsonPost by j***@tiscali.co.ukScoutbase seems to still be online. To access it you need to know the
factsheet number.
Indeed it is - in fact, the alleged "new" location for the Fact Sheets in Member Resources is just a series of pointers to the existing ScoutBase library.
Post by Chris AtkinsonPost by j***@tiscali.co.ukHere is the one for Archery.
http://www.scoutbase.org.uk/library/hqdocs/facts/pdfs/fs120406.pdf
I don't know how many fact sheets there are, but needing to know the
relevant number to find any particular one seems to be making it hard
work :-(
I did try to find the one on air rifle shooting, and no, I didn't know
the number. It took a long time but in the end I found the fs number in
the POR reference. So, am I missing something? Is there an easier way?
Surely this constant re-work of the site must have improved the old SBUK
way of looking up the subject in the site Library?
Chris A.
(Hutber's Law rules it seems)
Comments sent to ***@scouts.org.uk as follows:
Sirs,
I found searching the Members Resources area extremely difficult, for the information I required - and I consider myself to be a very competent online user.
Specifically, I wanted the "new" locations for the Nights Away Permit Scheme information, fact sheets, and application forms.
Firstly, it's not clear that users need to be logged in to find the resources. Whilst I understand that these are resources for members, and are therefore legitimately not available to unregistered users, it should be emphasised that a login is required in order to access certain pages.
Secondly, apart from wanting the various fact sheets and permit application forms, as a Nights Away Adviser I wanted to check if the Assessment Checklist has been updated.
From this page, https://members.scouts.org.uk/supportresources, I had to click on the link for "Activities", taking me here:
https://members.scouts.org.uk/supportresources/search?cat=26 - not exactly a "memorable" link name, like the original ScoutBase version, is it?
I believe that access to the information could be improved by adding a separate heading in the left menu *of the first page* for "Nights Away".
From the "cat=26" link, I had to delve even deeper into the hierarchy, clicking on "Nights Away", to take me here:
https://members.scouts.org.uk/supportresources/search/?cat=26,358
Then, I had to drill down AGAIN, clicking on "Permit scheme" in the sub-menu, to take me here:
https://members.scouts.org.uk/supportresources/2869/nights-away-permit-scheme?cat=26,358&moduleID=10
This initially displayed a Security Warning dialogue box had been displayed at *EVERY* link I have had to drill through so far - somewhat repetitive and unnecessary by now, don't you think?
On clicking "No",to the request to display only the secure parts of the web page, I was presented with a page that appeared to have links to the Fact Sheets and Adobe pdf files that were so easily found before in the ScoutBase Library.
Not so.
As I'm sure you are aware, the page now displayed contains the following words:
"You can find full details of the Nights Away Permit Scheme in the factsheets below..."
But, the factsheets were *NOT* "below". What *is* below are further links with descriptive text which redirect to to header pages, thus:
FS120800 Nights Away Permit Scheme http://www.scouts.org.uk/fs120800
FS120801 Nights Away Permit Scheme - Applicants' guide http://www.scouts.org.uk/fs120801
FS120802 Nights Away Permit Scheme - Assessment guide https://members.scouts.org.uk/supportresources/2869/ww.scouts.org.uk/fs120802
THE ABOVE LINK IS A BROKEN LINK!
Searching for "Assessment Guide" revealed the following link:
https://members.scouts.org.uk/supportresources/2863/nights-away-permit-scheme-assessment-guide-fs120802
But, as with all of the other links, this was still not a direct link to the pdf file I needed. This was arrived at by drilling down further to http://www.scoutbase.org.uk/library/hqdocs/facts/pdfs/fs120802.pdf. I note that this link is still to ScoutBase!
WHY, OH, WHY, CAN'T I GET A DIRECT LINK TO THESE FACT SHEETS FROM THE LEFT HAND MENU?
The Permit scheme sub-menu also contains links to the following:
FS120803 Nights Away Permit Scheme - Commissioners' guide http://www.scouts.org.uk/fs120803
FS120804 Nights Away Permit Scheme - Nights Away Advisers guide http://www.scouts.org.uk/fs120804
It goes on further to give a link to:
AC120990 Assessment checklist for a Nights Away Permit http://www.scouts.org.uk/ac120990
Which, of course, is yet another header page, needing further drill-down! Initially, that link was also broken - but that seems to have been fixed.
Anyway, having eventually retrieved the information I needed, I opened the application for a Nights Away Permit document (Microsoft Word). This document contains an embedded link at the bottom right, to "second page if needed" - but, of course, that is now a broken link. Thus, that Word document needs an update. There are probably many other similar Permit application forms that need updating. As I am also ADC (Activities), I anticipate having lots of cries of "HELP!" from confused users.
All in all, a most unsatisfactory experience, which has taken me at least 30 minutes to navigate. *PLEASE* try to improve on this!
Sincerely,
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MatSav